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« on: February 04, 2011, 10:00:40 AM »

"Democratic Revolution...?"  Actually, it is beginning to stink to high heaven of outside interference of the worst kind.  

Check it out:

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By: Kristinn Taylor and Andrea Shea King
The Radio Patriot

As the cliche goes, there are no coincidences in politics. Obama fundraiser group Code Pink just happened to have arrived in Cairo last week for the group’s ninth visit there in two years as part of its campaign to undermine the Mubarak government and help Hamas, the terrorist group that controls Gaza.

Code Pink and the media are trying to portray the leftist group’s “sudden” appearance in Cairo Wednesday as an act of courageous support for a democratic revolution. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Read more:  http://noisyroom.net/blog/2011/02/03/obama-code-pink-and-egypt-%E2%80%98there-are-no-coincidences-in-politics%E2%80%99/

And, a blast from the past...

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We know that the Muslim Brotherhood supports the uprising in Egypt. The Obama administration does as well. Based on the release of a secret document, it’s been learned that the United States government supported the April 6 Youth Movement – a group that played a key role in the uprising – in the form of a summit in Washington, D.C. That summit took place from December 3-5, 2008. We also know that Bill Ayers and Bernandine Dohrn were in Cairo a little more than one year later, engaging in protests while attempting to show solidarity with Hamas by entering Gaza with Egyptian protesters.

According to Dohrn, both she and Ayers were detained at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo. They, along with Code Pink, weren’t permitted to assemble the mass of people they had hoped would join them in their march into Gaza but were able to round up a few with begrudging approval from the Mubarak administration. Waiting for them with open arms was former Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh.

Barack Obama and Bill Ayers had a significant relationship in the 1990’s, despite the president’s claim to the contrary. Sharing a business address for three years and working with millions of dollars together necessarily debunks the claim that Ayers was little more than “a guy who lives in my neighborhood.” We also know that Ayers is an avowed Marxist.

Another group Ayers and Dohrn support is the Free Gaza Movement. They – along with Code Pink founder Jodie Evans – were instrumental in organizing it. That group is credited with launching the flotilla in the spring of 2010 designed to break Israel’s blockade of Gaza.

Read more:  http://bigpeace.com/bbarrack/2011/01/30/underground-uprising-in-egypt/

It looks like O's leftist radicals friends / associates are stirring the pot in Egypt.  

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Following Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's announcement that he would step down from office in September, President Obama rejected the Egyptian leader's timetable and called for an immediate transition to a new government in advance of fall elections.

"Change must take place," Obama said in remarks Tuesday evening at the White House. "My belief is that an orderly transition must be meaningful, it must be peaceful, and it must begin now."

Read more:  http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/02/01/obama-calls-on-mubarak-to-hand-over-power-immediately/

How handy is this?  Really?

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A political leader of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood Thursday called on any government that replaces Hosni Mubarak's regime to withdraw from the 32-year-old peace treaty with Israel.

Read more:  http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/02/muslim-brotherhood-leader-dissolve-the-israel-peace-treaty/70761/

Will Egypt turn hardline?  Is Jordan the next to fall?  

"When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near."  Luke 21:20

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 10:08:10 AM »

More...  When does the "T" word come in?

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Obama Allies Organizing Terrorists
Thursday, February 3, 2010
By Scott Wheeler

What does the US Department of Justice have in common with the radical Muslim Brotherhood? It turns out a close associate of our Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez will soon be advising this fundamentalist group on how to takeover and run Egypt, further destabilizing this critical arena. The Executive Director of Perez’s former organization is planning on teaming up with the Muslim Brotherhood in the overthrow of the Egyptian government. To the point, Thomas Perez was president of Casa de Maryland, a group known to advocate for illegal alien rights, just prior to joining the DOJ. The group’s current Executive Director, Gustav Torres, is also on the board of directors of an extremist group called The Organizers Forum.  This group has chosen to ignore the organic democracy movement made up of many pro US demonstrators and declare the unpopular Muslim Brotherhood as the winner of the rulers’ roulette in Egypt.

“Our fall 2011 International Dialogue will be located in Egypt where we will meet with labor and community organizers and other activists in Cairo.  There are exciting changes and developments that are currently taking place in Egypt with elections coming soon to determine leadership transitions in what has been an autocratic regime, now challenged by the Muslim Brotherhood” reads The Organizers Forum website.

But the Muslim Brotherhood came to this rebellion late and appears to be waiting on the sideline for the chaos there to provide them an opportunity to use its signature method, violence, to take control of this strategically situated country. What is so strange about The Organizers Forum is its declaration that the Muslim Brotherhood is the group opposing the “autocratic regime” when in fact informed analysts know that it is not - at least not until their experienced well-connected community organizer brethren arrive from the United States.

The group’s board of directors reads like a who’s who of Obama associates including: Mary Gonzales, Associate Director of the Gamaliel Foundation; and Wade Rathke, Chief Organizer of ACORN just to name a couple.

There has been a lot of confusion and misinformation reported about the Muslim Brotherhood in the media since the uprising in Egypt. To be clear, for years, counterterrorism experts both inside and outside of the US government have sought to have the Muslim Brotherhood listed as a Specially Designated Terrorist Organization by the State Department. Most consider it the godfather of all violent terrorist organizations, having founded HAMAS and al Qaida. Ayman al Zwahiri, al Qaida’s number two behind Osama bin Laden, was a leader in the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, which has been outlawed in Egypt and responsible for a significant assassination attempt - on President Hosni Mubarak in 1995.

Bruce Tefft, a retired CIA officer and a founding member of the CIA’s counter terrorism bureau told this column, “The Muslim Brotherhood created the PLO and HAMAS” and counts among its membership “both al Zawahiri and bin Laden.” The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood is also the chapter that spawned Mohamed Atta, the ringleader of the September 11 attacks.

When Obama visited Cairo in 2009, many noticed a strange move by the administration to invite members of the Muslim Brotherhood to attend his speech, typically the kind of people that the Secret Service would screen out of presidential events. In June of 2009, Fox News reported,

“Khaled Hamza, editor of the Muslim Brotherhood Web site, confirmed to FOXNews.com that 10 members of the Brotherhood's parliamentary bloc received official invitations to attend the speech.” Read more here.

So much of what Obama has done since being elected President has made the bizarre seem normal. Through sound analysis one easily views connections between violent Left-wing groups in the United States and violent Islamic terrorist organizations in the Middle East, Obama would be unquestionably close to the nucleus of the chart.

Imagine dancing between two such disparate and dangerous organizations as Bill Ayer’s Weather Underground and the terrorists of Hamas.  These two factions joined only in the bloody pool of the death Western Freedom.

Over the past several months this column has questioned what the anti-American Left has in common with radical Islam.  Hyperbole aside, the answer lies in their mutual hatred of the United States.  And Obama seems to have far more in common with them than he does with any patriotic American.

http://www.goptrust.com/Egypt_and_Obama.html
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 01:32:08 PM »

Awesome research El. I took the first post and turned it into an op-ed on the front page of TCA.

there is alot of evidence out there that Obama contributed greatly to the uprising in Egypt prior to it happening. There are no coincidences in politics.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 07:14:18 AM »

Sure.... take advantage of a vulnerable situation.

Bottom line- we will end up fighting the whole middle east someday. They have wasted billions of our treasure in these countries trying to liberate when it takes only a handfull of middle eastern terrorist with nuclear or biological materiel to create havoc on our American cities.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 08:58:54 AM »

Gas Leak Explosion At Egypt-Israel Facility
1:51pm UK, Saturday February 05, 2011
Sam Kiley, security editor in Jerusalem

The head of Egypt's natural gas company says a fire at a terminal supplying Israel in the northern Sinai Peninsula was caused by a leak - not terrorist activity.

Saturday's fire, preceded by an explosion, did not cause casualties, however officials had to shut off the flow of gas to both Jordan and Israel to contain the blaze.

The confirmation came several hours after the regional governor in the Sinai, Abdel Wahab Mabrouk, had blamed the incident on "sabotage".

The head of the Egyptian company for natural gas, Magdy Toufik, countered that earlier claim and said in a statement that the fire broke out as a result of a "small amount of gas leaking".

Egyptian state TV had also blamed "terrorists" for the explosion, which saw flames towering into the sky near the Gaza Strip.

The blast came as a two-week-old popular uprising has engulfed Cairo and Alexandria.

Last week, Egypt reinforced the Sinai peninsular with two battalions of troops to protect tourists at Red Sea resorts and to support police who continue to help Israel maintain the long standing siege on Gaza, home to a million Palestinians.

Israel has a 15-year contract to import gas from Egypt, worth billions, but the deal signed in 2008 has been unpopular with many Egyptians.

This led to suspicions as to the cause of the explosion and fire.

The Sinai Peninsula, home to Bedouins, has also been the scene of clashes between residents and security forces because tribesmen complain that they are missing out on development opportunities.

The leak and explosion occurred early Saturday at a gas terminal in the northern Sinai town of el-Arish, several hundred yards away from the local airport.

Mr Mabrouk told Egypt's Nile News TV that the fire was brought under control by mid-morning, after valves allowing the flow of gas from the terminal into pipelines were shut off.

The pipeline was carrying gas to Jordan but Israel temporarily shut down its service, officials said, as "a precaution".

Jordan said gas supplies from Egypt were expected to remain halted for a week until the pipeline was repaired.

A Jordanian energy source said the kingdom had switched power generating stations to burning fuel oil and diesel as a precaution, after the cut-off of the Egyptian supply.

The blaze shooting vertically in the air was visible from rooftops of homes next to the Gaza-Egypt border, about 44 miles away.

The pipelines transport gas from Egypt's Port Said on the Mediterranean Sea to Israel and Jordan and supplies about 25% of the gas used to generate Israel’s electrical power.

"The gas supply to Israel was stopped according to procedure in emergency scenarios," Chen Ben Lulu, spokesman of Israel's Infrastructure Ministry, said.

The explosion comes as Israelis watch events anxiously in Cairo where a change of regime, many believe, could undermine Israel’s 30-year peace treaty with the Jewish state’s neighbour.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 02:50:44 PM »

As Eleora said, this really stinks! I would think this admin would try and get ahead of this thing by making a visable show of support for Israel. By this I mean "in" Israel. But no, he will wait until all hell breaks loose and mumble something about how we cannot help her, for whatever reason the teleprompter says. This guy hates Israel with passion.

As things continue to unfold about his involvement in secret dealings to help the situation evolve, the cry that Terry made in another thread today should be a loud one. It is time for barry to step down.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2011, 06:39:24 PM »

This guy hates Israel with passion.

Yes, he does.  Most black nationalists cannot stand Israel.  They see Israel as the same a apartheid South Africa.

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It is time for barry to step down.

He should have never been allowed to even run given the fact that he was not vetted. 
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2011, 07:04:29 PM »

I've had the misfortune of trying to carry on rational discourse on another forum's political section and the number of Jew-hating anti-Zionist freaks is very interesting. Irrational hatred is what drives these people.

As for the "gas leak" thing I posted, the bad timing of it is extremely suspect. Maybe it was a coincidence, or maybe it was sabotage. We'll see if there are any more "accidents".
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 09:06:50 AM »

Saboteurs attack Egypt gas pipeline to Jordan
by Jailan Zayan – Sat Feb 5, 7:32 am ET

CAIRO (AFP) – Unknown saboteurs attacked an Egyptian pipeline supplying gas to Jordan, forcing authorities to switch off gas supply from a twin pipeline to Israel, an official told AFP.

The attackers used explosives against the pipeline in the town of Lihfen in northern Sinai, near the Gaza Strip, the official said. It was initially thought the pipeline to Israel was attacked.

"The pipeline to Jordan has been attacked and the supply to Israel has been cut off," the official said.

The army has taken precautionary measures to stop the fire from spreading, the official added, as rescue services were putting out the fire.

It was not immediately clear who was responsible, or whether the attack was linked to the deadly protests against President Hosni Mubarak's rule, which entered their 12th day on Saturday.

"We still don't have details of how it happened," he added.

Israeli public radio quoted an Egyptian official as saying the attack was carried out at dawn, using a small amount of explosives that caused only minor damage.

The fire lasted three hours and was under control, while gas supplies to Israel and Jordan were cut, the official said.

An armed Bedouin group in June threatened to attack the pipeline, security officials said, leading Egyptian authorities to beef up security around the pipeline and terminal.

Police relations with the region's former nomads are often tense, with the Bedouin complaining of routine harassment and discrimination.

Activists accuse the police of exploiting concerns about the pipeline to crack down on the community.

Human rights groups have criticised Egyptian policy towards the Bedouin, who faced harsh police treatment after a series of bombings in Sinai resorts between 2004 and 2006 which killed dozens of Egyptians and foreign tourists.

Egypt supplies about 40 percent of Israel's natural gas, and in December, four Israeli firms signed 20-year contracts worth up to 10 billion dollars (7.4 billion euros) to import Egyptian gas.

The attack came after Israel expressed concern that its natural gas supplies from Egypt could be threatened if a new regime takes power in Cairo.

"We again realise that the Middle East is not a stable region. We must act to ensure our energy security without relying on others," a spokesman for Israel's National Infrastructure Minister Uzi Landau said on Tuesday.

Israel is concerned that a post-Mubarak regime might not respect the bilateral peace treaty signed three decades ago -- potentially threatening the crucial energy supplies Egypt provides.

A broad swathe of Egypt's opposition, including the powerful Muslim Brotherhood, as well as public opinion, has called for Cairo to stop supplying Israel with gas.

Landau on Monday summoned the heads of Israeli companies that are developing the offshore Tamar gas field -- due to start production in 2013 -- to urge them to push ahead with its timely development, his office said.

Landau told them Tamar's importance was even greater "in these times of unrest in our region." The field, off the port city of Haifa in northern Israel, holds estimated reserves of eight billion cubic metres (280 billion cubic feet).

Israel's Globes financial newspaper reported that Landau's ministry had conducted exercises dealing with emergency scenarios in which gas supplies were cut off. It gave no further details.
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 11:57:39 AM »

Irrational hatred is what drives these people.

And a deep set thirst for revenge...  I cannot stress enough how deeply black nationalists hate Israel.  They see them as the embodiment of racism and privilege.
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 12:39:32 PM »

And a deep set thirst for revenge...  I cannot stress enough how deeply black nationalists hate Israel.  They see them as the embodiment of racism and privilege.
What, the black nationalists see Jews (or Israel) as the embodiment of racism? That's ironic!

As for privilege, that is earned not granted. Study hard, learn, work hard, reap the rewards. We adults call that a meritocracy. Unfortunately, many blacks in this country have been taught "entitlement" without the need for any effort to earn anything.

When irrationality comes into play, there's no way to reason; there's no hope that facts will sway them. What are you left with?
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2011, 07:37:03 PM »

What, the black nationalists see Jews (or Israel) as the embodiment of racism?

Yep.  I knew a couple where the wife (black) was an American from Georgia.  Her parents sounded like race hustlers to be honest. The husband (bi-racial...black mom/white dad) was born in South Africa but moved to the U.K. when he was in his early teens.  Apparently they met in college in the U.K., married, and she then relocated permanently to the U.K. with him.  

He was a nasty piece of work.  He experienced Apartheid as a young kid in S.A.  He identified with blacks.  He wouldn't own the term bi-racial.  He saw Israel like Apartheid South Africa and HATED the Jewish people.  He would side with anyone against them - absolutely anyone!  He also disliked whites although he wouldn't admit it openly.  But, he lost no time accusing whites of being racist and running the ol' carnard that blacks could not be racist because they were not "economically empowered."  In fact, he would frequently employ the term "cracker."  

I say all this because I see his actions and attitudes in our president - which scares the utter heck out of me.
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